Belief – Post from The Hindu Atheist

I read this post about Belief in the blog “Beliefs, Religion and Reason – A perspective of Hindu Atheist” .

I have commented my thoughts about the post.. I am just re-publishing it here in ‘my world’ as well.. 😉

Belief – The ORIGINAL POST
“So you say you believe in Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you trust Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you have faith in Science?”
“Yes.”
“Do you have *belief* in Science?”
“Yes.”
“.. and I have belief in religion, faith in God. What’s the difference? We are same.”
“Umm …”
“So is there any difference?”
“Yes.”
“What difference? I think both of us have blind faith in something.”
“I believe in the process of Science – a well laid out process of research, inquiry, theory and evidence. Science debates the ideas, different viewpoints are considered, research reports are peer reviewed. Still science makes mistakes and science corrects itself. It is a continuous process of self -improvement. Science evolves.”
“But *you* do not test those theories, *you* do not verify evidence. You faith is just as blind as mine, isn’t it?”
“No. Even though I haven’t verified the evidence of each and every scientific theory, I know someone has. I also know if I want to I can see the evidence myself, and based on my capacity to understand it I can verify each and every claim the theory makes. Can you say the same thing about religion? When religion has produced any evidence for any of its claims? When religion has discarded any of its old theories in light of new reality? How the faith in religion is same as faith in science? How? Why?”
” … “
“We both believe in something, but that’s not just the same. It is exactly opposite.”

MY COMMENT

“No. Even though I haven’t verified the evidence of each and every scientific theory, I know someone has. ”
So, you basically trust that someone’s opinion – blindly!

” I also know if I want to I can see the evidence myself, and based on my capacity to understand it I can verify each and every claim the theory makes.”
How many have you done? How much have you understood? In today’s science also, there are lot of politics happening and not many (maybe none) of the original research papers are published to show the truth. They are published to attract more funds.

“Can you say the same thing about religion?”
Yes. I can. There are religious scripts available for any religion. I am a Hindu basically and I know that for Hindus, we have Vedas and other books. The problem is, none of the Hindus today are bothered to learn the language Sanksrit and try to read those scripts on their own. Why cant you just learn it and try to first know what is actually said on your own. Dont try to read other’s commentaries. It has their opinion mixed in it. Try reading the original scripts on your own.
We dont know what we have and we have never understood the importance of that. That is why some American is able to patent for ‘turmeric’ and we just keep watching it!

” When religion has produced any evidence for any of its claims? ”
Read them on your own to find truth. Of course, those materials are not available that easily. And I assume even you cant get those research papers that easily. Some strain is required to know the truth.

“When religion has discarded any of its old theories in light of new reality?”
Religion is an already evolved concept. So, I think this may not be possible.

“How the faith in religion is same as faith in science? How? Why?””
Yes. It is same. Because, the believer in most cases actually does not know the ‘facts’ or ‘truth’. One believes in fellow human being’s brain. Another believes in unknown unseen ‘power’. But they just believe. And both kinda people exists. They live on the same Earth. Apparently with not much differences in their lifestyle. The “belief” itself makes them happy. Not the “thing” which they believe.

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One comment

  1. S.Neelakantan · · Reply

    This is a classical debate on belief. It has been going on for ages.
    Science says (Only in the last 100 years) that the speed of light is the absolute and nothing can exceed this. Can any one test this? Experiments however are going on to prove this and even a month back during solar eclipse there was report justifying this. Similarly many religious beliefs also can not be proved.
    It is a question of faith and belief. If you have faith in your religion, then believe what it says at least to the extent that the individual understands.

    As to your point of learning sanskrit to understand vedas, as a Tamilian, why not go through Nalayira Divya Probahandam (available on the net) or the sayings of nayanmars all in Tamil.

    I am no great believer but I am not an atheist also

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